all this talk about godhead and three or two gods and whatnot !!
Get your heads out of the churches for they are germanic/romanic/slavic folk paganism mixed with Yisraeli Scriptures, so stop qouting the "church fathers" as having any knowledge or authority about those Sacred Scriptures for it is well know they themselves only understood the Scriptures by using greek philosophy.
Let's let the writings speak of the people who knew and saw the Ancient Nazarenes;
They have no different ideas, but confess everything exactly as the Law proclaims it and in the Jewish fashion – except for their belief in Christ, if you please! For they acknowledge both the resurrection of the dead and the divine creation of all things, and declare that God is one, and that his Son is Yeshua Mshikha (jesus christ in the original writings).
– Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.7.2
(It is interesting to note what beliefs Epiphanius contrasts between the Jews and Nazarenes, for the Jews as a whole, excluding the Sadducees, confirm the resurrection of the dead and the divine creation of all things. It is quite possible that the distinction between them was their belief that Jesus will be the one to raise the dead (see John 6:40,44,54) and created all things (see Colossians 1:15-16), thus calling him divine yet the Son of God)
They believe that Messiah, the son of God, was born of the Virgin Mary.
– Jerome, Letter 75 Jerome to Augustine
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I agree that males and females were made in the image of Yahuwah. But Yahuwah is not multiple Yahuwahs, each having their own unique gender. Yahuwah has all the masculine characteristics, and all the feminine characteristics in his one being/person/mind. The union of man and woman is meant to picture the union between the elect and Yahuwah, where Messiah is the bridegroom, and we are the bride. It also allows us to experience what Yahuwah is like, because Yahuwah is masculine and feminine united as a single on[e]. We can experience that when we unite ourselves with the woman, but just because male and female are two beings does not mean Yahuwah is two beings. Yahuwah is one being, and we can experience that oneness of his where he is the perfect balance and unity of masculine and feminine by uniting with the woman.
... has all the masculine characteristics, and all the feminine characteristics in his one being/person/mind. ... we can experience that oneness of his where he is the perfect balance and unity of masculine and feminine....
YHWH is not in any way feminine, unless you want to limit love to feminity, or stigmatize compassion as an exclusively feminine feature.
HE has a breath, and breath ("spirit", "Ruach") is GRAMMATICALLY feminine. You and I have a breath (that is also grammatically feminine), that does not mean we are part feminine. Case closed. There is NO divine mother or "sacred feminine". In fact, there is no "sacred masculine" either. YHWH is only GRAMMATICALLY masculine. Man and woman are created in YHWH's image, which is ultimately genderless. That does not mean we are genderless. We are created in YHWH's image, who is omniscient, yet we are not omniscient. As Anayah said, YHWH is omnipotent, and we being created in His image are not omnipotent. Likewise He is genderless, and we being created in His image have 2 genders.
the odes of Shlomo were written by Shlomo, not Salome. Shalom.
obviously not everyone agrees with me. i knew you didn't, and I knew Jackson didn't either. he offers no evidence that Shalome is. historically, it was always attributed to King Solomon. Always, at least in every reference that has survived.
i didn't see your quote, but I still think it isn't compelling.
[emphasis mine]Elohim is not hermaphroditic, nor is he bisexual. He is asexual. However, Elohim has masculine and feminine characteristics (not physical). Will you argue that even males don't have femininity? and females don't have masculinity? they do, but in varying degrees.
i don't see how that's relevant. they had to be pure, without blemish.
so Elohim is a physical male and a physical female? because surely adam and eve were created in the image of of Elohim, and Adam and Eve were physically male and female, therefore, if you were consistent, you would have to acknowledge by your reasoning that Elohim is also physically male and physically female.
Yeshua also said, in reply to the request "show us the father, have I been with you so long, and still you do not understand? I and my Father are ONE, if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. He also said, before Abraham was, I AM.
Brothers, I was maried for 26 years. My wife passed away. During that time, I was her husband, a father to our daughter, and a worker who brought in the income. YHVH created man in HIS image.
But what is that image? It's not complicated.
A man, individually, is made in the image of God. Mankind, also, is made in the image of God. Husband, Father, provider...Father, Wife, child...
Friends, there is ONE God. Not three. Yeshua is the Son. YHVH is the Father. They are one. The Holy Spirit is the comforter, the strengthener.
I believe that their is ONE God, who is ONE person...with three divine natures. Total unitiy, yet different aspects, or jobs.
If you take the text at face value, that He meant exactly what He said, there is your answer.
I cannot believe that the merciful YHVH would reveal something ABSOLUTELY necessary for salvation, ie faith in Yeshua as Messiah, and it be so simple, and then reveal something IMPORTANT, but not required for salvation, and it be so complicated and confusing. YHVH is not the author of confusion. Yes, get your heads out of the church. Leave that leaven alone. ALL of it.
"I believe that their is ONE God, who is ONE person"
--you have it correctly
"with three divine natures."
--not NATURE, because The Merciful is not part of Nature
"Total unitiy, yet different aspects, or jobs."
--ׁׁHE is ONE. but you can view Him in different ASPECTS
congratulations Tracy.
the potency, to be physical at will at any time that Elohim so ever wills. That physicality would have gender distinctions between BeingS
--you are correct here John.
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