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       Recently, at our Shabbat home fellowship we viewed the DVD version of Jonathan Cahn, New York’s times best seller, “The Harbinger”; which brought to mind the most horrendous time so far in the relatively brief history of our nation, The 1861 Civil War; approximately a half a million Americans killed each other, in perspective more Americans died in The Civil War thin all US wars combined, it happened suddenly and its terror rained down on the just as well as the unjust; a war that was under estimated by Washington advisers to last only three to four months. The motives were noble to rid the unconstitutional scourge of slavery which had lost favour with the North mostly because of the influx of cheap labour from Ireland and Europe. Slavery was losing favour with the Christians in the South. I believe the Civil War should have only lasted three months but for one mans unlikely decision to turn down President Lincoln’s commission as General over the US Armed Forces. The man Robert E. Lee one of West Point Best, a devout Christian who was against slavery made a fatal decision to go against his believes and followed in his Southern traditions.

 

                                        How could this happen? Could it happen again?

 

Ecclesiastes1: 9-10 That which has been is that which shall be: and that which has been done, is that which shall be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a thing whereof it is said, See, this is new? It has been already, in the ages which were before us.

Let’s go back in our history, the early Christian settlers such as the Pilgrims, Puritans etc. for almost 200 years successfully shunned the tradition of Christmas as well as other pagan traditions. When shunning was no longer effective they outlawed it in their communities and states. Now beginning in 1836 immigration from Ireland, England, and Germany, which represented the Irish Catholic, Episcopal and Lutheran churches had become established in the political system, their constituents desire to keep these traditions and were won over state by state.

 

        By 1856 all but one state (Oklahoma) had sanctioned the practice of said traditions.

 

Said issue ironically is similar in process that’s before our Nation in regards to the Scriptural covenant of marriage.

 

1856 Franklin Pierce was our 14th President, you might recall he was the President that refuse to be sworn into office under the oath of the Bible. Pierce declared that God had ordered a judgment on him through the tragic loss of his three children.

 

Now during Christmas of 1856 Franklin was the first President to sanction a Christmas tree and traditions in the White House violating our nation’s threshold covenant. Up to this time our country had experienced a period of prosperity but nine months after these pagan traditions were sanctioned, September 1857 at the time of the fall feasts the banks crashed our nation’s first major recession/depression. In our nation’s most financially difficult of times little did they know the unthinkable tragedies or if you will harbingers of 1861-65 that were set before our nation, so too in our most difficult of times we do not know what’s is set before us.

 

          Could there be another Civil War, neighbor against neighbor or something similar?

 

My children enjoy skeet shooting, I have never had a problem purchasing shotgun shells until recently; you can only purchase three boxes per day if in stock. It appears that Americans are stocking up on ammo and high-powered weaponry, were not talking about Kentucky Flint long rifles, horses and swords rather the latest in war technologies.

 

Texas as well as other states is speaking of secession and our government is constitutionally and seemingly militarily readying itself for civil unrest, weather triggered by secession or the rapidly spreading world wide famine or some unknown. A scenario which if we survive as a Nation could make the Civil War look like a minor skirmish in US history.

 

As a Nation are we all in this together, will it rained down on the just as well as the unjust?

 

As a Nation we have not only broken many scriptural commands, we have financed and exported such to other nations, from abortions to hybrid seeds etc.

 

Revelation 18:3-5 because she has mixed the wine of her [Babylon] fornication for all the nations and the kings of the earth have fornicated with her and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her trade. And I heard another voice from heaven saying, Come out from within her, My people, so that you do not partake in her sins; Jer. 50:8, 28; 51:6, 9, 45; Zech. 2:11 (2:7); Is. 52:11; see also 2Cor. 6:17 so that you do not receive of her plagues: Jer. 50:13 Because her sins have reached up to heaven, and Eloah has remembered her iniquities.

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Could there be another Civil War, neighbor against neighbor or something similar?

Glen seems to think so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_thbU7WfBKY&feature=youtu.be

Mikha El,  Shabbat Shalom; thanks for the link!  

 

"Just because they’re paranoid, doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen”

 

My wife  and I have been looking at a farm in the fertile valleys of the Andes in the south of Ecuador, I always liked that part of the Americas. The locals are friendly, the weather is spring like year-round, diesel a dollar a gallon, natural foods are plentiful, and hybrid farming is not allowed.


Mikha El said:

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Could there be another Civil War, neighbor against neighbor or something similar?

Glen seems to think so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_thbU7WfBKY&feature=youtu.be

Sounds like a good idea . . .

R. Michael & Melanee said:

 

Mikha El,  Shabbat Shalom; thanks for the link!  

 

"Just because they’re paranoid, doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen”

 

My wife  and I have been looking at a farm in the fertile valleys of the Andes in the south of Ecuador, I always liked that part of the Americas. The locals are friendly, the weather is spring like year-round, diesel a dollar a gallon, natural foods are plentiful, and hybrid farming is not allowed.
Mikha El said:

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Could there be another Civil War, neighbor against neighbor or something similar?

 

Glen seems to think so....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_thbU7WfBKY&feature=youtu.be

Shalom my friend, thank you!

We are praying on it. We must sell our property.

In Abba’s Hands.

Shalom Robert Thanks for the links; will view on Sunday. Do you have an outline; if so post the link or email.

 

Robert,

I have reviewed your videos and much of your writings.  I don't agree with everything you have penned, especially concerning your interpretations of scriptural "2 House Theology", but I do think you have quite possibly hit on some very interesting astrological and possible coincidental prophetic events coming in the next few years, ...assuming software programmers and Nasa have not errored. I have a couple of questions for you, please....

1) If Daniel's 70 shavua's "5 time frames", the signs in the heavens and the torah "pictures"  end in 2017 as you have concluded as pertaining to Yoel 2:30 what, if anything, have you concluded concerning the "blood and columns of smoke" that scripture seems to have occur along with the blood moons ....over Israel?

2) Since part of your end times timeline included a start date for the tribulation which you stated here....

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 If we are expected to take our Messiah literally, then we should expect the great tribulation will begin 1260 days before "the Feast of the Trumpets" 2016.  Counting backwards from Yom Teruah or "The Feast of Trumpet" 2016 1,260 days (Daniel 12:7), we would land on Friday, March 22nd, 2013. 

...are you still of the opinion the tribulation started 3-22-13?  I realize your understanding of Daniel's  "abomination of desolation" has already occurred, I still can't help but wonder about things like a "mark"  that will hinder buying and selling in the final 3 1/2 years. 

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