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http://www.torahlife.tv Today's guest Daniel Botkin is the messianic teacher who talks about how he was a born again Christian but felt like he became born again, again when he became a messianic believer in Messiah Yeshua. Daniel talks about the difference between most Christians and Messianic Believers.

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Comment by Mikha El on February 1, 2011 at 7:06am

Paul,

 

Great to see you here at Nazarene Space!

 

In regards to the question presented, "Can we be born again, two times"?  I must say that I don't think so. As a matter of fact, I belive no one has been born again, ...yet!  You see, I'm of the opinion that true obidient belivers will become born again at the last day and not beforehand. Justification occurs now. Salvation later.  

 

Many verses illude to a future renovation utilizing future tense phrasing concerning being born again.

 John 3:7, "Do not marvel that I said to you, You have to be born fron above". (ISR)

Rom 9:27 "And Yeshayahu cries out on behalf of Yisra'el, Though the number of the children of Yisra'el be as the sand of the sea, the remnant shall be saved."

1 Cor 15:51 "See, I speak a secret to you: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

2 Cor 5:2 "For indeed in this we groan, longing to put on our dwelling which is from heaven."

 

Other verses do seem to lean toward a past/ongoing renovation (justification) and at times, seem to point to an immediate "born again" condition without careful consideration of all text pertaining to the subject being considered:

 

1 Peter 1:23 "..having been born anew - not of corruptible seed, but incorruptible...(HRV) (kjv has born again here)

 2 Cor 4:16 "Therefore if we do not loose heart, but even if our outward man (yetzar ra) is perishing, the inward man (yetzer tov) is being renewed day by day". (ISR)

Phil 2:12 "So that, my beloved, as you always obeyed - not only in presence, but now much rather in my absence - work out your own deliverance with fear and trembling" (ISR)

 

Obviously there is much more text to consider then what few I have posted, ...hope this helps.

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