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Circumcision - *Warning* this article is irritating.

"I suspect that when some misinformed Christians imagine that they have a religious reason for circumcising their children..."

http://www.drmomma.org/2009/10/circumcision-christianity.html

I welcome comments.

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Comment by Margaret Frost on October 28, 2010 at 2:02am
The circumcision that Rabbi's (and medical doctors) perform today is "Periah". Yahweh asks for "Milah".
There is a VAST difference between Milah and Periah.

The Milah is a blood sacrifice, a few drops. It is comparable to the female wedding night blood sacrifice. T

The Periah is an amputation of the foreskin. It is comparable to ghastly female mutilation. The Periah form of circumcision did not begin until 140AD.

The Milah circumcision will be restored to the ancient way. The Periah mutilation circumcision will be exposed.
Comment by Margaret Frost on October 28, 2010 at 2:20am
Milah = only the tip of the foreskin is snipped. (Circa the time of Abraham until 140 A.D.)
Periah = the entire fold of skin, the prepuce, is amputated. (Circa 140 A.D. until today)

Periah circumcision is a lie, a counterfeit! You've been robbed!
"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly."
Comment by Margaret Frost on October 28, 2010 at 1:05pm
http://www.covenantcircumcision.info/

I was angry about this too. Is there no end to what the enemy will do? I share this so we can return to Yahweh and do as he instructs, without adding to or taking away. I appreciate your comments. Shalom.
Comment by James Trimm on October 28, 2010 at 4:22pm
Margret,

James E. Peron, Ed.D. seems to be the "source" on this... I would like to see ancient documentation, anything else is just something someone made up.
Comment by James Trimm on October 28, 2010 at 4:25pm
Margret,

How does Dr. Peron know? Has he interviewed people from the time of Abraham until 140 C.E.?
Comment by James Trimm on October 28, 2010 at 4:29pm
Genesis 18 might be the reason, something about it being for all generations forever and anyone uncirced is outside YHWH's Covenant...
Comment by James Trimm on October 28, 2010 at 4:40pm
Margret,

I did not notice any photos taken prior to 140 CE for comparison...

While that may have been laced with sarcasm it highlights the point... we have no such pictures, so how do these people KNOW? Is there someplace in the ancient writings, Josephus, Philo, The Dead Sea Scrolls or the Mishna which records a change in how circumcisions were performed?

If so, cite it, if not it sounds like just something else (like so many others) that someone made up in modern times with no historical documentation and suddenly people jump on the bandwagon because they are hungry for a new idea or cause.
Comment by Brian Forbes on October 28, 2010 at 4:44pm
James, I take it you are of the opinion that the common way is the right way in the case of circumcision.
Comment by James Trimm on October 28, 2010 at 4:48pm
Just a quick bit of research shows that Margret's very defensive "fact" is in fact a "hypothesis" proposed in 2007!!!


(A hypothesis is an educated GUESS)

The Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion, hypothesizes that the present form of circumcision, involving periah (peeling back the foreskin), was commenced during the Second Temple period. According to this hypothesis, Jewish hellenists, wanting to assimilate into Greek society, obliterated the sign of their circumcisions by finding ways to lengthen them, to make it look as if they had not been circumcised at all.[33] This practice was unacceptable to the Jewish community at large, and led to the complete removal of the foreskin to expose the glans. The frenulum may also be cut away at the same time, in a procedure called frenectomy.[34]

[34] Stuart, Robin (July 2007). "MALE INITIATION AND THE PHIMOSIS TABOOS". APPLIED RESEARCH on CIRCUMCISION (Arc). http://www.phimosis-circumcision.com/welcome.html. Retrieved 2007-10-05.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah#cite_note-33
Comment by James Trimm on October 28, 2010 at 4:49pm
Yes and I think the burden of proof is on the other side to document their claims. this is just a hypothesis someone created in 2007.

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