Is the Talmud The "Traditions of Men"?
James Scott Trimm
My friend Lew White recently wrote:
> ...I [Lew White] have repeated the statements from Yahusha directed toward
>the traditions of the fathers, and equated them with Rabbinical Judaism.
>I see them as one and the same thing, ...
Now it is well known that Lew White is a good friend of mine, and as we read in Proverbs:
Iron sharpens iron:
so a man sharpens the countenance of his friend.
(Prov. 27:17 HRV)
Now when it comes to pagan customs and practices in Christianity, Lew is an expert. But when it comes to Talmud, that is my area (no offense Lew).
So lets test Lew's theory. Yeshua speaks about the "traditions of men" in Matthew 15 (as Lew cited previously) but he also gives us a specific example of one of these "traditions of men" saying:
5 But you say, Whoever says to father and mother, It is all an offering-- whatever of mine might profit you,
6 And he honors not his father and his mother. Thus have you made void the commandments of Elohim, on account of your judgments.
(Matt. 15:5-6 HRV)
Interestingly the Talmud addresses this very issue. Now if the Talmud and Rabbinic Judaism are to be equated with the "traditions of men," then we would expect the Talmud to express the view that Yeshua ascribes to these "traditions of men". So lets see what the Talmud says on this issue:
R. Elieazar says: they open a vow for a man by reference to the honor of his father or mother.
and the sages prohibit.
said R. Tzadok: before they open a vow for him by reference to his father or mother let them open his vow by reference to the honor of HaMakom.
If so there will be no vow.
But the sages concede to R. Elieazar, that in a matter that is between him and his mother or father they loose his vow by reference to his father or mother."
(m.Nedarim 9:1 & b.Nedarim 64a)
Now I give a detailed annalysis of this passage of Talmud in my video Talmud For Beginners Lesson 1.
But the key point here is that the Talmud tells us that the sages agreed that a vow is opened (revoked) for a man by reference to the honor of his mother or father in a matter that is between him and his mother or father. Now the situation Yeshua presents is between a man and his father and the sages of the Talmud maintain that such a vow is in fact revoked on the basis that it conflicts with the commandment to honor one's parents.
That's right, Yeshua and the Talmud both agree AGAINST what Yeshua calls the "traditions of men"!
The Talmud's position is no more that of the "traditions of men" Yeshua speaks of in Matthew 15 than Yeshua's own position is, because the Talmud agrees with Yeshua's position.
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