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This question has be touted and asked throughout the history of Mankind! Don't get hung up in the word "Torah", it simply means learning, teaching, instructions and all that that entails. All and any of the Writings is Torah.

So with that in mind when was Torah first pasted down to us? I give you a hint before we were made from the dust of the earth. YHVH (Yahweh) began with Yeshua, Then came everything else! The first was establishing the days; even and morning day one.

Now it says that Yahweh walked with Adam in the cool the day, somewhere in the mix or before that. But we know that Eve (Havah) was bot separated into a separate person just yet. Yahweh said don't eat of the Tree of knowledge of good and evil! That was more torah and the second rule. First was 6 days of work, 1 day of rest Sabbath. Second was don't eat of the one tree.

I'm sure most of you know, be fruitful and multiply. Also is what qualifies as Torah? Remember that Constantine was responsible along with the Catholic fathers of setting what was in the "Bible"; not Israel or Jews.

So what is Torah?

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Comment by Darrell K Whitfield on June 18, 2009 at 7:24am
I would very much disagree. The Record tells us the Torah was lost at one point and the king found it. Then we have the scribes work under Ezra and NechemYah. Then we have the taking of the text from Paleo Hebrew to Square Aramaic script about 100 A.D.or C.E. when the feirce opposition to Yahu'shua of Nazareth existed the most. This tellsme that even the Tanach and Torah were played with. Of mention also is the center word in the middle of the Torah andthe Tanach have changed according to the Talmudic writings. So what all did the Mosora do? I believe from looking at all the ancient text we have His Word preserved all 66 books and maybe even some that are not canonized!
Comment by Darrell K Whitfield on June 18, 2009 at 7:27am
Paul didn't contradict Torah but wasn't clear on some points which appears to make him contradictory. Like circumsicion when he is speaking to the nations. He acknowledges it is a commandment but doesn't clarify that it is for Isaac's descendents only who were part of that land covanant, and all the nations can't dwell even as believers in that land promised to Abraham so the covanant of circumcision is not for them, only in the heart.
Comment by James Trimm on June 18, 2009 at 7:59am
I can't agree with you here. I never see Paul teaching that circumcision is just for born Hebrews.
Comment by James Trimm on June 18, 2009 at 8:06am
I'll add that Yeshua sent his Jewish Emissaries out to immerse the Gentiles and to teach them to do "ALL that I [YHWH] have commanded YOU to do" (Mat. 28). That would include circumcision.
Comment by James E. Auel on March 18, 2010 at 5:46am
Don't forget that Torah and in this case I am referring to the first 5 books is the meat of all we have as Torah. Nothing can go against "The Meat". Just like in Pesach(Passover) with out the Lamb its not a Seder.

So a safe start is No text may contradict the Torah hence the first 5 books. When you study the 66 books and do research; you find that those book are good. They don't really contradict each other!

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