so wait a minute.. are you against people making tzitzit for themselves in our time because that snail is extinct or do you disagree with that rabbi teaching people in the former manner??
btw tzitzit is only commanded for clothes with angles and most modern clothes don't have this so tzitzit is not commanded for people (like me) who wear modern clothing....
R.T. I agree .
Rick & Debbie Toole said:CJC, I respect your view of women wearing tzit tzit , I do dis-agree with your view however. Torah says , C.J.B. by David Stern- Speak to the people of Israel instructing them to make through all their generations tzitziyot on the corners of their garments, and to put with the tzitzit on each corner a blue thread . I don't feel they should be tied to belt loops , one can wear a katan, both male and female . Techelet can be bought today in Israel , for the specific blue in question , in order to satisfy that debate . Torah does not say ( the men ) to wear tzit tzit it says the children . There are many levels to understand this mitzvoth, but I see this from the pashat. R.T.
Regarding hillazon snails and tzit tzit:
Orthodox Jewish women do not wear tzit tzit; many messianic women ahve adoptd the practice of donning them. The wife of a rabbi myself, I do carry with diverse teaching responsibilities which make allowance of wearing them, though not mandatory.
The problem with messiainic tzit tzit are many:
1) Creation of various celebratory varieties of threads which are not at all prescribed within Torah.
2a)Women who wear tzit tzit would be required to be found ceremonially, ritually clean through mikvah after havng been throughroughly the premises of examined by the rebeitzen on the premises of the loca mikvah.
2b)The woman wearing tzit tzit other than one in rbztzn authority would be granting knowledge to the men in the congregation who could through careful notation and observance discover their monthhy cycle. Such infomation is not to be made common knowledge; it is to remain sacred, holy, protected.
3) The issue of the snail? Well, the uttermost of sin is represent by a color of manificent beauty found in a creature nestled in the far reaches of dark deep. ( a constant reminder that we are within easy acess of either good or evil. The plainess of a quiet life should not be confused with the blue thread which sticks out pridefully past the plain threads.
Always, G-d has a purpose for His actions.
I wasn't calling you ignorant, I don't think you are.
The Zohar gives the process of being "born again" in the same form that Yeshua` gives, and it expands on it as well giving us deeper insight. Rambam and various Rabim talk about attaining Ruahh HaQodhesh ("Ruach HaKodesh") usually through hithbodeduth (secluded personal prayer).
Some Rabim of the Talmud believed in Yeshua`, approximately 1/3, 1/3 were non hostile, and 1/3 were hostile. We know this by what the Talmud says when it gives this story:
Three Rabbis are talking, one Rabbi said of the [Nazarenes], 'I would neither study with them nor worship with them.' The second Rabbi said, 'I would certainly study with them, but I would not worship with them.' And the third Rabbi said, 'I would both study and worship from them, for I am one of them.'
As far as halakha goes, the halakha of Hillel is followed and the halakha of Shammai is banned. Yeshua`, from what we read of him, agreed with Hillel on most things besides, for one example, the stringency of divorce. Hillel halakha is probably something like 85-95% the same as Yeshua`'s, of course, since we only have a very small amount of Yeshua`'s halakha, its hard to say for sure.
How can we even follow Yeshua` 100% without his halakha? Does it help that the huge majority of those who call themselves his followers don't even agree on base issues between themselves, but every man seems to have his own hugely different opinion from the other? The stability, the base, IMHO, is found in the halakha accepted and taught in the Talmud.
sevynn leverette said:Thank you for you eloquence in calling me ignorant, since you placed yourself in the seat of the Torah as instructor/morah/teacher.
Can Scripture be broken as the Talmud is quite often by fundamental differences?
How often has the Ruach haQodesh rendered Talmud? Especially to those who are reNewed, reborn, as the Anointed One teaches?
The Talmud is full of wisdom, insight, it also taeches against YeweShua passages?
If anyone comes to you not bringing this teaching, do not recieve him into your house, nor greet him, for he who greets him shares in his wicked works.
Does the Talmud bring this teaching of walking in his commands and YeweShua in the flesh. This one is he who is leading astray and the anti-Mashiyach.