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Issabbath mentionedin the Book of Jasher or Enoch before Moses

Is there anything written in the Book of Jasher and the books of Enoch about sabbath before Moses?

I keep Sabbath , but every one says the the law and the Sabbath was only given to Moses
I believe the 10 were given even in the garden of Eden,

here is some objection i get and my reply

re If the Sabbath was that important why didn't God tell Adam, why leave Adam out?
why wasn't it mentioned to Adam but only mentioned to Moses, God didn't even tell Adam about the Sabbath! Why?

Have you not read about God created the sabbath day AFTER HE CREATED ADAM?????????

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Note Here:
That not only did God make the Sabbath for man but he blessed it for him.

Jesus CONFIRMED that the Sabbath was made for man …
and it is written that God made the Sabbath AFTER he created man and blessed the 7th day..

As for Moses time God said remember the Sabbath… Not… I have a Sabbath for you to keep from now on as a sign

another one is

re Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of Law for righteousness to everyone that believes.

does this mean you can ignore the other commandments also

does this mean you CAN commit adultry?????
have a slave?????? (Referring to the Sabbath in Deuteronomy)
take God's name in vain?
Make and bow to idol of your making

So i would like to know if sabbath was mentioned in Enoch or Jasher
or other Jewish source

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Another important question is “who was the Sabbath made for?”. Some have taught that the Sabbath was first given as part of the Mosaic Covenant on Mount Sinai and is for the Jews only. Daniel Juster alludes to this idea when he says:

"...Sabbath is a day of crucial significance to Jewish identity.
The principle of weekly rest, worship and renewal is one
of universal significance. In this sense, the Sabbath
principle is a spiritual and humanitarian guide for all peoples.
Christians are free to incorporate this principle on Sunday
or other days. The seventh day Sabbath for Israel is
a special central sign of the Covenant between Israel and God."
(Jewish Roots p. 195)

But what does Messiah say? Who was the Sabbath made for? Why did YHWH rest on the Sabbath… was He tired? Clearly He was not tired as we read that He “faints not, neither is weary” (Is. 40:28). So although he rested on the Shabbat from his work, this was to set the example for us, he did not need to rest so he did not create the Sabbath for himself. Messiah said:

…The Sabbath was created
for a son of man, and not a son of man for the Sabbath.
Thus also, the Son of Man is the Adonai of the Sabbath.
(Mark 2:27-28)

The one who created the Sabbath tells us who he created the Sabbath for. He did not create the Sabbath for the Jews only but he created the Sabbath for “a son of man” (all men). When the commandment to keep the Sabbath was given at Sinai (Ex. 20:8) YHWH said “Remember the Sabbath…” How could YHWH ask them to remember something they had never heard of before? In fact the children of Israel were already observing the Sabbath in Exodus 16 before the ten commandments were given in Exodus 20. The Sabbath transcends the Mosaic Covenant.

However even if the Sabbath had been part of the Mosaic Covenant, it would not have meant that the Sabbath was only for Jews. The Torah says that “One Torah shall be to him that is home born, and unto the stranger that sojourns among you.” (Ex. 12:49). Yeshua sent his Jewish talmidim (disciples) out to “teach all the goyim (gentiles)… and teach them to observe all that I have commanded you.” (Mt. 28:19-20).

The Sabbath was not created simply for “the Jews” but for all mankind. Thus when there was a debate over whether gentiles needed to be circumcised to be saved, the Jerusalem assembly commented:

For Moshe, from the first generations, had proclaimers
in every city in the synagogues, who read him on every
(Acts 15:21)

They assumed that gentile believers would be going to synagogue and hearing “Moses” (the Torah; the Five Books of Moses) read every Sabbath.

The Sabbath was created and set apart for all mankind at the time of creation. It was therefore kept by such as Adam, Enoch, Noah and Avraham.
I do not think there is a mention of the Sabbath in either 1st Enoch or Jasher but I could be wrong
Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying,

The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.

Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Now in the NT

Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
The Shabbath is mentioned in Genesis as the 7th day of rest after creation, and has been in effect since then.
The people of Israel were not reckoned as a specific "Nation" in the modern sense of the word before being given the Mt. Sinai revelations that codified the already existing holy traditions as being the laws of a Nation - similar to the traditions of the modern Jewish people being in part codified in the laws of the modern Nation of the State of Israel, but existing from before.
Sabbath is mentioned in Gen 2:1-3. Isn't that evidence enough for those who object? Yahweh Himself was keeping the Sabbath before Moses wrote about it.
Seventh Day is mentioned in the book, as a prophecy of final rest to human souls when the Shekinah shall be finally restored unto all the elects the way angels (Watchers) have enjoyed His presence.

" And after this, on the seventh day of the tenth week, there shall be an everlasting judgment, which shall be executed upon the Watchers; and a spacious eternal heaven shall spring forth in the midst of the angels. -Enosh 92:16
however more straight are s.Yasher and s.pseudo-Jubilee which are more specific about the shabbat saying:

" To you, all the children of Israel, thus says the king, for six days you shall do your work and labor, but on the seventh day you shall rest, and shall not preform any work, thus shall you do all the days, as the king and Moses the son of Bathia have commanded." -Jasher 70:47

" keep Sabbath on the seventh day from all work. And all the angels of the presence, and all the angels of sanctification, these two great classes -He hath bidden us to keep the Sabbath with Him." -Pseudo Jubilee 2:18

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