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A common misunderstanding of Torah is that it is the first five Books of the Bible. This is because when the Bible was categorized, it was divided into three main sections. The first section contained many laws, so it was called "Torah", the second section was mostly prophetic, so it was called "Prophets", the third section was simply called "Writings" and included everything else. However, the original meaning of Torah can be understood by reading how the word Torah is used in the Bible.

  The first place the word Torah is used is Gen 26:5.

  "Because that Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My mishmereth, My mitsvah, My chuqqah, and My Torah."

Now it is evident that the Torah existed centuries before Moshe, so it should not be said that the Torah began with Moshe. Also, since Abraham kept the Torah, it should not be said that only the Pentatuech is the Torah. Abraham obviously did not have the book of Deuteronomy, but he kept the Torah.

Notice the words in the verse: mishmereth, mitsvah, chuqqah, and Torah. We must obey His voice, and keep His mishmereth, His mitsvah, His chuqqah, and His Torah. Torah is only one of the 5 things!

Look at Yashua 24:26.

"And Yashua wrote these words in the Book of the Torah of Elohim..."

Here it is evident that Yashua also is Torah. Yashua was not a seperate book from Torah, it was added in the Book of the Torah.

Now look at Ezekiel 43:12.

  "This is the Torah of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the Torah of the house."

Now we see evidence that Ezekiel also contains Torah. So it is a mistake to say that the Torah ended with Deuteronomy. If anyone says that the Pentateuch is the only Torah, and the rest of the Bible is commentary, they are wrong.

Messiah Yashua often said "The law of Moses". (Torah of Moshe). This is not because Moshe is the only Torah, otherwise He would not have needed the words "of Moses". He said "of Moses" to specify which part of the Torah, since, as we read above, the Books of Yashua and Ezekiel are also Torah. He could also have said "The Torah of Yashua", or "The Torah of Ezekiel".

I could go on, but I would like to conclude with this:

Torah is the law of Yahweh, contained in the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. Calling the Pentateuch "Torah" is only for categorical reasons. It does not mean that the Pentateuch is the only Torah.

 

 

 

 

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Torah is the law of Yahweh, contained in the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation.

quote your authority. it is vulgar and barbaric to dare against what has been established in thousands of years, when not even one scholar is behind you.

Calling the Pentateuch "Torah" is only for categorical reasons. It does not mean that the Pentateuch is the only Torah.

Yeshua Messhia said "Don't think that I came to destroy the Law and the Prophets...." THEREFORE HE UPHOLDS THE BASIC DIVISION held amongst Jews then: Torah, Naviim, Ketuvim. Whatever He approves... who are you to disprove?

learn as you study.

don't talk in order to study.

I'm with Christopher on this one.  The word Torah translates to English as "teachings" or "instructions".  The entire Book is filled with this.  It doesn't take a scholar to see the simple logic involved.  I will agree it all expounds on the foundation of the 1st 5 books.  Perhaps a compromise is in order here?

we are talking of "what" the written Law is. we do not confuse what instruction you can gather from other writings. there are indeed other sources of godly instructions: but was it given to become binding to Israel?

 

a law must necessarily

(a) be clearly promulgated by an Authority for its validity;

(b) be proclaimed by agencies (Moshe and the elders) to bind the subjects;

(c) be specific enough in its substance and procedure to become executable by the subjects.

 

these requisites you cannot find among the naviim and ketuvim.

 

the Highest legal mind is the Lawgiver himself. He knew what a law is, so throughout the Torah you can frequently read "vayomer Eloqim..." to authenticate the promulgating Authority. in short: Moshe was not seeing a vision: he WAS LISTING subtantive and procedural principles aimed for observance by certain group of humans.

 

most cases a simple instruction can be modified, deviated or even disobeyed depending on practical situations. but a substantive law cannot be treated the same. dura lex sid lex for there is a great stake to lose in one mistake. most humans may take the Law lightly as just another set of common instructions; but this is not the case to a Jew: for us the instructions coming out from the mouth (vayomer Eloqim) BECOMES A LAW to us and as such it can matter life and death!

 

shalom.

 

...sure I can....

The Revelation to Yochanan the Emissary
(Revelation)
CHAPTER 1
1 The revelation of Yeshua the Messiah, that Eloah gave to Him, to show to His servants
what must happen soon. And He made [this] known when He sent it through His angel to
His servant Yochanan,
2 Who gave witness to the Word of Eloah, and to the witness of Yeshua the Messiah, all
that which he saw.
3 Blessed [be] he who reads, and those who hear, the words of this prophecy and keep
those [things] that are written in it: for the time has drawn near.

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a law must necessarily

(a) be clearly promulgated by an Authority for its validity;

(b) be proclaimed by agencies (Moshe and the elders) to bind the subjects;

(c) be specific enough in its substance and procedure to become executable by the subjects.

 

these requisites you cannot find among the naviim and ketuvim.

 

well, it says "blessed", the mouth of Yeshua in Matyahu chapter 5 has greater force than that, talk of beatitude. but it does not in any way say "Anoki Eloqim... lo yeyeh lekha" the essence of substantive promulgation. 

 

however, depending on who is taking what, anything from the book of Joshua to Revelation can be a law to him who takes it to himself.

 

shabbat shalom.

 

Mikha El said:

...sure I can....

The Revelation to Yochanan the Emissary
(Revelation)
CHAPTER 1
1 The revelation of Yeshua the Messiah, that Eloah gave to Him, to show to His servants
what must happen soon. And He made [this] known when He sent it through His angel to
His servant Yochanan,
2 Who gave witness to the Word of Eloah, and to the witness of Yeshua the Messiah, all
that which he saw.
3 Blessed [be] he who reads, and those who hear, the words of this prophecy and keep
those [things] that are written in it: for the time has drawn near.

quote:

a law must necessarily

(a) be clearly promulgated by an Authority for its validity;

(b) be proclaimed by agencies (Moshe and the elders) to bind the subjects;

(c) be specific enough in its substance and procedure to become executable by the subjects.

 

these requisites you cannot find among the naviim and ketuvim.

Makes no difference.  It is teachings/instructions regardless of how "substantive" one interprets! Again, building/elaborating on what has already been stated earlier in our texts.

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