Nazarene Space

Flat Earth is a Flat Lie
James Scott Trimm

There is a "flat earth" theory going around on the internet. The flat earth was actually a pagan belief. Some thought it was carried on the back of an animal such as an elephant or turtle, and most thought the earth to be flat. Yet the ancient Hebrews knew better. Our prophet Isaiah wrote:

“It is He that sits above the circle of the earth...”
(Is. 40:22a).

The Hebrew word for “circle” here is KHUG (Strong’s 2329) which refers to a “circle or sphere” and is also used to describe the arched dome-like shape of the sky (Prov. 8:27; Job. 22:14).

The ancient Hebrews were well aware of this spherical shape of the earth. Additionally the book of Job told them that the earth is not sitting on the back of some animal, but is suspended in the void of space by nothing:

“He stretches out the north over the empty space,
and hangs the earth over nothing.”
(Job 26:7)

When we compare Luke (17:34-36) with Matthew (24:40-41) we see that at the instant of the return of Messiah two will be lying in one bed (Luke 17:34-36) while two will be at work in one field and two will be grinding in the mill (Luke 17:34-36 and Matt. 24:40-41). In other words the ancient Hebrews were well aware that is night and day on different sides of the planet at the same instant!

Yeshua made the statement that certain Pharisees would “compass the sea and land in order to make one proselyte” (Mt. 23:15). The Hebrew word for “compass” in the Hebrew here is SABIBOT (Strong’s 5437) meaning to circle completely around. It is the same word used in the Hebrew of Joshua (Josh. 6:3, 13, 14) to describe the children of Israel circling Jericho seven times before the walls fell. The Aramaic of Matthew has K’RAK which has the same meaning and which is the same Aramaic word the Aramaic Peshitta text of Joshua uses in these verses. Yeshua was saying that Pharisaic “missionaries” were circling the globe seeking converts all over the world.

Do NOT send this ministry funds thru Facebook.  We recently heard from a supporter who had sent my wife funds for her birthday thru Facebook, hoping to bring her some cheer while in the hospital.  My wife never got notice of the funds and when she checked, there were no funds waiting for her in Facebook.  The supporter now believes that a thief ended up getting the money.  This was yet another attack from the Enemy!  That money was stolen at a time when we could certainly not afford to lose it

Again, do NOT use Facebook to send this ministry funds.  You can send us funds securely using Paypal.  We have used Paypal for many years without any problems.  And we are Paypal verified.

As you know this ministry has been under attack from the Oppressor. 

We just got home Monday after my wife was  fifteen days in the hospital

For those who do not know, my wife Inga ("Kitty") was rushed to the hospital (Harris HEB) in an ambulance two weeks ago.  She was in intense pain and after several days of running tests she had open abdominal surgery.  She has had several complications after surgery, including a blood clot.  During these fifteen days I stayed with her by her bedside.  

This is not a time that I need to be worried about ministry funds. 

This has created some additional expenses for us at a time when we can least afford it, were it not for support we received immediately before this attack, I do not know how we would have gotten by this last week.  But now funds are very low, and bills are coming due. 

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Comment by Brian Bockman on July 18, 2015 at 11:47pm

The earth is not moving.

Psalm 93:1 The Lord reigns; he has clothed himself with honour: the Lord has clothed and girded himself with strength; for he has established the world, which shall not be moved.

So go ahead and believe monkey man science that we are on a spinning 1000 mph globe, orbiting the sun.  If you add everything up according to NASA, astronomy and science the earth is moving at 90 million miles a second.

Then we have the whole issue of the so-called "corners" and "ends" of the Earth…

Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven;

Job 37:3 He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth.

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Isaiah 43:6 I'll say to the north, 'Give them up'! and to the south, 'Don't keep them back!' Bring my sons from far away and my daughters from the ends of the earth

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Revelation 20:8 He will go out to deceive Gog and Magog, the nations at the four corners of the earth, and gather them for war. They are as numerous as the sands of the seashore.

The scriptures clearly say the sun and the moon are moving not the earth:

Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Habakkuk 3:11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

Isaiah 38:8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

Comment by Brian Bockman on July 18, 2015 at 11:51pm

Not possible on a globe earth model:

Matthew 4:
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Comment by Brian Bockman on July 18, 2015 at 11:52pm

There are a LOT more Scriptures we could look at too. In fact, the more you search the Bible for your answers, you'll keep running into descriptions of the earth stating: 

1) It is fixed and not moving (spinning, orbiting, etc.) 

2) It is circular and has edges/corners/pillars/foundations, etc. 

3) The #4 comes up a lot in reference to 4 corners, 4 winds, etc. - the 4 corners indicating a circle carved into a square 

4) It is hedged about with a boundary that connects with Heaven 

5) There is a metallic canopy of sorts stretched out like a "tent" over it

Whether or not we want to accept this will depend on our willingness to admit the level of cognitive dissonance we still want to maintain.

Comment by Brian Bockman on July 19, 2015 at 12:03am

The bottom line is that you think its impossible that we could have been deceived about the Earth, when we are born and raised in Satan's kingdom, and yet it is possible that Adam and Eve WERE deceived when they were walking with GOD? 

Comment by James Trimm on July 19, 2015 at 12:10am

OK again it looks like a high school education is required.

All motion in the universe is relative motion based upon frame of reference.  Motion can only be measured relative to the frame of reference of another object.  From the earth's frame of reference the earth is still and other objects are in motion relative to the earth's frame of reference,  But to know this you would have had to have paid attention in High School physics. 

Comment by James Trimm on July 19, 2015 at 12:13am

BTW I already showed from Gesenius' lexicon that CHUG means circle or "sphere". “It is He that sits above the circle (sphere) of the earth...” (Is. 40:22a).

Comment by James Trimm on July 19, 2015 at 12:14am

Ok so why is their a coriolis effect?  (And therefore why do hurricanes spin opposite directions depending on which hemisphere they originate?) Why do ship masts appear as a ship approaches over the horizon before the rest of the ship?  Why can you measure the circumference of the earth using trigonometry and measuring the lengths of two shadows at the same time at two locations?  Why can you travel and make three 90 degree turns and cross your own path making a triangle (impossible on a flat surface as you should know from high school geometry, but inevitable along the surface of a sphere).  Why do people in the Southern Hemisphere (such as Australia and South Africa) see different stars than those who live in the Northern Hemisphere?

But like I said, it requires a high school education.

Comment by Brian Bockman on July 19, 2015 at 12:24am

Ok, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.  Thank you for your responses.  May the FATHER bless and keep you ALL WAYS.


Comment by Laurie R Giesler on July 21, 2015 at 3:06pm
In the 1980s, living outside Washington, D.C., I saw a movie taken from a space by a shuttle while circling the earth. The video was the thin blue line and it showed how thin our atmosphere looked from space. It was curved. Of course, you have to believe the video was real but I don't think photoshop existed back then. And, I don't care what Rob Skiba thinks. He also says Noah's daughters-in-law were Nephilim! So, G-d flooded the whole earth to rid it of the hybridization of the evil ones, but let three giant children in the ark jeopardizing the complete humanity of the Messiah? And, Chuck Missler says what we see could all be a great hologram. All that matters is what the G-d of Heaven's Host planned and does, not what we think.
Comment by Brian Bockman on July 21, 2015 at 6:27pm

Rob still believes in the spinning spherical ball earth.  I only used his 44 page article which lists all the scriptures concerning the moon, sun, earth and the heavens, and he even includes the book of Enoch, because it was readily available.  It is titled, "Allowing the bible to speak for itself".  I am not promoting his beliefs about the nephilim.


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